By Jer Kennelly
PARISH: St. Patrick’s Missionary Society. Fr. Thomas O’Connor will make an appeal for St. Patrick’s Missionary Society and its Mission at all Masses on weekend the 24th/25th Sept.’22. A Pastoral Council Meeting will take place on Weds. 21st Sept. at 7.30pm in the Sacristy. The Parish Office will be closed Thursday 22nd Sept.’22. Confessions: Moyvane Saturday 6.45pm to 7.15pm. Eucharistic Adoration every Tues. after 10.00am Mass to 11.30am. Presbytery/Office: 068 49308, Web: dioceseofkerry.ie
Blessed Sacrament; On September 11, 1226, King Louis VII asked to expose the Blessed Sacrament as a way to celebrate victory over the Albigensians, a sect that flourished in southern France in the 12th and 13th centuries.
ST PIO mass in Castleisland Church on September 23rd at 7.30pm with congregation.
ANNIVERSARIES: Bridie Behan, Madeline Barrett, Sr. Maria Stack, Molly Chrisfield, Timothy Horgan, Dan Joy, Bridget O’Connor, Maighread McCarthy, David Harman, Bill Cahill, David Thompson, Maeve Goulding, MASS INTENTIONS: Sat.17th Sept.’22- Moyvane for Pat, Bridget, and Dick Stack (Aniv.)
Dromurhur at 7.30pm; Sun.18th Sept.’22 Knockanure for Liam Lynch (Aniv.) and Deceased members of Lynch & Byrne Families at 9.30am, and Mass Moyvane for Mikey Joe & Peggy Enright (Aniv.)
Kathleen & Willie Stack (Aniv.), Deceased members Of Enright & Stack families at 11.00am;
Mon.19th Sept.’22 No Mass in Church; Tues.20th Sept.’22 Moyvane for Nellie & Tom O’Connor & Son Con (Aniv.) Glin Road at 10.00am; Weds.21st Sept.’22 Knockanure a Private Intention 10.00am;
Thurs.22nd Sept.’22 Moyvane for Daniel & Bridget O’Connor (Aniv.) Clounprohus, Hanny & Frank Beecher (Aniv.) at 10.00am; Fri.23rd Sept.’22 Knockanure a Private Intention at 10.00am; Sat.24th Sept.’22 Moyvane for Gerard & Joan McEnery (Aniv.) Tubertoreen at 7.30pm; Sun.25th Sept.’22
Knockanure for People of the Parish at 9.30am, and mass Moyvane for Michael Scanlon RIP Recently Deceased at 11.00am.
WANTED: Knockanure Community Centre Would anybody be willing to volunteer approx. 4 hours on Friday mornings from about 9am to help in kitchen and then to accompany the driver delivering the meals on wheels. If so, please contact the Centre on 068 49799
FEET: Chiropodist will attend Marian Hall Moyvane Friday 23rd September at10am. For appointment, Contact Noreen 06849238
KNOCKANURE GAA Lotto Results for Sept. 13th; Jackpot €5,700, Numbers Drawn: 4, 11, 20, and 24. No winner but lucky dips went to: 1. Eddie J. Flaherty, c/o All Star Bar; 2. Gerard Buckley, Knockanure; 3. Liam Kearney, Moyvane South; 4. Ann Woods, Knockanure, and 5. Peg Collins, c/o Ploughman Bar Abbeyfeale. Next draw will be on Tuesday September 20th in the clubhouse. All are welcome.
MUSIC: Music and singing classes held on Thursday nights at the Top of the Town, Athea, call 087 7527127.
SET DANCING with Timmy Woulfe, will commence on Monday 26th of Sept at 8pm in the Marian Hall, Moyvane, and newcomers especially catered for.
GABRIEL Fitzmaurice will have a launch Party for “Farewell to Poetry” at Peoples Museum, 2 Perry Sq., on 22nd Sept., at 7.30pm, Gabriel has 60 books to his credit.
SET DANCING with Timmy Woulfe, will commence on Monday 26th of Sept at 8pm in the Marian Hall, Moyvane, and newcomers especially catered for.
RACING: Listowel, September 18 -24. Visit www.listowelraces.ie for more information. The Sam Maguire Cup, Jason Foley along with members of the victorious Kerry Team will be in the Square, Listowel on Saturday, September 17 at 8pm.
ACCOMMODATION appeal for anyone in greater Listowel and including Ballybunion, Irremore, Rathea, Duagh and anywhere between the surrounding areas, who may have a room or a well-presented house for let for Race Week. Contact Clodagh at the Race Week Office on 0876652211.
NEW MOON on 25th Sept.
TRACTOR Run Lixnaw, will now take place on Sunday 18th September 2022. Registration from 11am. The tractor run will depart from J.J. Walsh’s Yard, Lixnaw at 1pm. Registration Fee €20 per tractor, includes brass plaque. All proceeds will go to Nano Nagle School, Listowel. For further details contact John 087-6645800.
STORY: Teach Siamsa on Sunday Sept. 18th from 10.30am to 12.30pm as part of the Storytelling festival. Frances Kennedy will be Bean an Ti. Admission is free. All the details of this festival is available online at www.kerrywritersmuseum.com/storytelling-festival.
RAMBLING House at Knockalougha on 20th of Sept.
Rambling Sessions is a new weekly programme at Kerry Writers’ Museum, Listowel, featuring a selection of Kerry’s finest storytellers, poets, musicians and singers It celebrates the old Irish tradition of the Rambling House where people gathered to entertain themselves through music, song, story and dance.
CONGRATULATIONS to Jimmy Deenihan, born 11 September 1952 on his 70th birthday and Matt Kennelly of Cloth Hall on his 90th Birthday.
AWARD: Young Musician Award submissions can be Emailed to: [email protected]
DRAMA: Glórach have announced that there will be drama classes for children and teenagers taking place on Saturdays over the Autumn and Winter starting on Saturday, September 24 and run for ten weeks. To register email [email protected] or text 086 1944852.
Culture Night Ireland on 23rd of September.
CULTURE Night September 23 at Siamsa Tíre, who will host four different events. Culture Night takes place in the Knocknagoshel Community Centre on Friday 23rd September at 8.00pm.
The Spike Players will perform a one-act play “The woman from Purple Mountain” followed by a
Traditional music session with local musicians. Everyone is welcome, admission is free.
GLORACH: Rose Loughlin will hold the Irish debut of her one-woman show ‘A Rose by Any Other Name’ at the Glórach Theatre in Abbeyfeale on September 23rd and 24th at 8pm. The show charts the colourful journey of Rose’s real-life experiences
WEBINAR: On Thursday 22nd of Sept, the Diocese of Kerry Justice, Peace, and Integrity of Creation Committee invite you to ‘Listen to the Voice of Creation Webinar’’ as part of Season of Creation 2022. To register for this free hour-long webinar please log on to www.dioceseofkerry.ie
VOCATION? Poor Clare Sisters, Cork will be hosting a Zoom Meeting on Saturday Oct. 1st at 3pm. Please email [email protected] to receive the link or see www.poorclarescork.ie for more information.
QUEEN: Book of Condolences for the late Queen Elizabeth II, opened at the offices of Kerry County Council at County Buildings, Rathass, Tralee.
KERRY PRO-LIFE: Are holding a Pro-Life Rally in the Square, Tralee on Saturday 1st October at 2.30pm. Further details contact: 087 6590661.
LATIN MASS will be offered on Sunday 25th September, at 12.00 noon at the Church of the Immaculate Conception, by Fr. Bernard Healy CC. More info from [email protected]
LOURDES: Diocesan Pilgrimage in the Fall of 2023, a small group of pilgrims are travelling this year on
September 30th for a 3 night pilgrimage from Dublin at a cost €595. Some more places have become available.
EVENTS; Recovery Haven Kerry-cancer support house are delighted to bring the latest Cancer Thrive & Survive programme to An Díseart Dingle, beginning on Wednesday, September 21st, call 0667192122 to book your place for this FREE six-week programme.
Listowel Family Resource Centre; recommencement of Toddler Programme – Tiny Tots, 30th Sept. 10.30am – 11.30am. Also, Baby & Us Massage, 26th Sept. 10.30am, 4 weeks €25. Rainbows Ireland supporting Children with Bereavement and Parental Separation, from 7 years in 1st class to 6th Class. 9-week programme starting 29th Sept., 5.30pm – 6.30pm. Please Contact Toni Clarke on 087-7523705 or 068-23584 for information or booking a place on any of the above courses.
Parents Plus Teenagers 7-week programme, starting Thursday 13th Oct. 10.30am – 12.30pm, aimed at parents who want to improve their relationships with their teenagers. Contact Bridie Mulvihill 086-8556431 or 068-23584, Listowel FRC.
MY Mental Health Matters’ is the theme for the 2022 Kerry Mental Health and Wellbeing Fest which will feature a wide range of activities to suit all ages from October 8-15.
Dingle Food Festival- September 30 to Sunday, October 2, Over the weekend Blas na hEireann, which is the biggest competition for quality Irish produce on the island of Ireland, will announce who has won Gold, Silver or Bronze in their category. Now in its 14th year. (More info @ www.irishfoodawards.com)
Rainbows Ireland, supporting Children with Bereavement and Parental Separation, 9-wk programme starting 29th Sept. 5.30pm–6.30pm. Contact Toni Clarke on 087-7523705 or 068-23584. Also, Parents Plus Teenagers 7-week programme, starting Thurs.13th Oct. 10.30am–12.30pm. Contact Bridie Mulvihill 086-8556431 or 068-23584.
Cork Autism Online Conference 2022 – Autism: Beyond. Sun., Oct. 23rd. Speakers incl. Dr. Temple Grandin, Dr. Stephen Shore, Dr. Peter Vermeulen and other internat., speakers. Suitable for autistic people, parents, families, teachers, other professionals, and anyone with an interest in autism. See www.autismcork.ie
AWARDS: Best of Kerry Awards. Organised by Radio Kerry and supported by Lee Strand Milk. The winners will be announced at a ceremony for nominees on September 29th. Mag’s Deli, is among the shortlisted. People can choose their favourite up until September 25th at radiokerry.ie/bestofkerry
BOOKS: Little library bags are a government initiative for children who are starting school. Call to Listowel library for one, between 10-5 Monday to Sat and late opening until 8 on Tuesday and Thursday. Details at 068-23044 or at www.kerrylibrary.ie
VISITOR Experience; central character is a boy named Ciar, who is a descendant of the O’Connor Chieftain Ciar, the founder of The Kingdom of Kerry www.ciarsquest.ie
WALK: Information on Up the Hill for Jack and Jill 2022, visit www.jackandjill.ie or telephone Jack and Jill at 045 894538.
MEDITATION/RELAXATION CLASSES: Ballybunion and Listowel community Centres. Classes are on Monday and Tuesday evenings and Wednesday morning at 11.30 a.m. from the 26th September. Contact Grainne at 097 9762862.
TUSLA, the Child and Family Agency, are currently recruiting new foster carers to meet the growing demands for placements. To find out more about becoming a foster carer please call 066-7184513
COLÁISTE ÍDE: Coláiste Íde is holding an open day on 8th of October 2022 from 10am to 4pm. Phone 066 9151211 or email [email protected]
TEAGASC: News & Events https://www.teagasc.ie/news–events/
DONATED album: Gene Mangan was a national sporting hero in 1955 in winning the Rás Tailteann at the age of 18. Now an album relating to the glory-days of Kerry cycling in the 1950s and 60s, also include Paudie Fitzgerald’s Rás win in 1956 and Mick Murphy’s in 1958, and more, can be viewed at Tralee Library shortly.
GARY McMahon Singing Weekend will take place in Abbeyfeale from Friday, October 14 – 16.
HERITAGE Walk will be held at Knockfierna on 9th of October, details from 087 997 7340.
Glin Knights Visitor Centre. The centre will be open every day from 10am until 5pm.
WINTER: Plenty of talk about fuel for winter and none of them are giving sense sable advice to the people, on ways and means to cope.
FAIR: Dingle Food Fair. September 30 – October 2.
TFI Local Link provides local public transport in rural areas nationwide where other services are limited. The services are low-cost and available for anyone wishing to travel to or from their local town, village or parish. https://www.transportforireland.ie/
HOSPICE Coffee Morning takes place on Thursday, September 22. Bewleys are sponsoring event for 30th years and over €41 million has been raised around the country. More by contacting the Kerry Hospice Foundation office on 066 7119070.
MINI MARATHON: To register for the Cook Medical Mini Marathon, visit the Cook Medical Mini Marathon 2022 website. Every one of all ages and abilities can take part on Sunday, September 25.Starts at the University of Limerick Sports Arena. Full marathon in Tralee on the 24th.
TRIATHLON in Glin, took place on Saturday 3rd September. The event started with a swim at 11am sharp, following with a cycle to Bolands Meadow, Foynes and a looped run up Cahara, Clonoughter turning at Costello’s crossing and finishing in the Square Glin. Triathletes travelled from all parts of the country.
FOOTBALL: Ray Houghton will come to, Tralee and The Huddle Bar on Sunday, October 9.
NATIONAL PLOUGHING: Ratheniska – Co. Laois, September 20 -22. Tom O’Connor hopes to travel on Wednesday, September 21 to the Ploughing. Contact him on 087 2632096.
Bus Duagh from on Wednesday Sept.21st for the Ploughing Match. If interested ring 087 2522402.
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-videos/national-ploughing-championships-2022-prepares-for-opening/
FARMING: CSO agricultural input price index is up by 39.1% in the year from July 2021, while the output price index is up by 28.4%. January to the end of May this year, 29,802 calves under the age of six months were slaughtered in Ireland. UN Security Council meeting on Ukraine in New York on September 22, global food supply will be the focus of the UN General Assembly.
WINNERS in the NDC and Kerrygold Quality Milk Awards; The O’Brien family from Doon, Tralee were awarded the Future Proofing Animal Health award, the Egan family from Abbeydorney were awarded the Farm Infrastructure Development award, the Moynihan family from Knocknagoshel were awarded the Transformational EBI Change award.
PLANT a native Irish tree or hedge. See: www.easytreesie.com • Organise a blessing of pets for the Feast of St Francis on 4 October • Set up a ‘Care for Creation’ group in your parish. Read Laudato Si’ together • Consider becoming an eco-parish. See: www.ecocongregationireland.com • Work on joint actions and projects with other faith communities, schools, youth groups, community groups in your area • Go wild! Embrace the wildflowers: www.pollinators.ie/communities/faith-communities
FRUIT growing wild all over the country, now ripe and very few now, pick, haws, Sloe, plums and blackberries. Even the Greens are silent about health and carbon benefits of using local foods.
ABBA: Waterloo has been voted the best ABBA show and most authentic ABBA tribute of all time. Performing in the Tintean, Ballybunion on Saturday 15th October 2022. Tickets at www.tintean.ie
PEOPLE FOR OTHERS; an exhibition of Portraits of Irish People who have contributed to great works of charity all over the Country, will be visiting St. Mary’s Cathedral for the next Fortnight. Each Portrait is accompanied by a write up about the person and their lives. All are welcome to visit.
Video link https://youtu.be/KQdtUrrsrLY Filename- Camera Pictures Killarney.wmv
STORYTELLING Festival at Listowel, Sample of events; Lunchtime Yarns – 1.30 pm, with Storytellers Paddy Regan and Sean Lyons; Scéal na mBan – 5 pm, female storytellers celebrating the women of Ireland. Featuring Liz Weir, Maria Gillen and Godfrey Coppinger; Story Through Song – 8 pm, Listen as Paddy Regan, in more reflective mode, is taken by five accomplished singer/songwriters through the creative elements of the song writing process as they perform their “stories through song”. He was joined on stage by Mickey MacConnell, Ger Wolfe, Cormac O Caoimh, Hank Wedel and Lorraine Nash, and later there were Stories & Poetry at Christys – 10.30 pm, Sean Lyons, storyteller and author of humorous was your Fear an Tí.
HOSPITAL: 10,115 people are seeking outpatient and inpatient appointments at UHK.
ANTIQUES: Thousands of antique followers were at Limerick Racecourse recently as it hosted Ireland’s biggest Antique Art & Vintage fair.
Limerick has been home to the National Antique Fair for the last 35 years –
SANDES: https://www.ancestornetwork.ie/sandes-estate-kerry-1797-1828/
ARTS: Age & Opportunity is seeking applications from professional artists with an interest and background in the arts and older people in a care context, to participate in a new Age & Opportunity professional development Arts initiative, the Artists Care Exchange (ACE). Professional artists from a wide range of art forms are encouraged to apply, including but not limited to visual arts, dance, theatre, creative writing, music, circus and multidisciplinary arts. Closing date Friday, September 23rd at 5pm. More details (https://kerrycoco.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=b3755ab5575cb711eac9566f8&id=ca40c7adc8&e=57e387efec)
FEAST of St. Padre Pio is on Friday 23rd September. (1867-1968). A Franciscan Capuchin friar, renowned for his compassion for all who were troubled in mind or body he was declared a saint by Pope St. John Paul II in 2002. There are more than 3,000 Padre Pio prayer groups all over the world.
CLAR; Glin Development Association announced that grant aid funding of E12,591.45 has been awarded by CLÁR.
COST of Living; Canada- Records show Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s official residence spent more than $12,000 on groceries, dining, a chef and boutique goods in one single month last year, according a news report.
PAPER: 1973-10-27 Irish People page 1
TWA To Follow Pan-Am? A warning that there was a possibility that T.W.A. might follow Pan American in their threat to pull out of Ireland from April 1 next if the Governing body do not reconsider the new bilateral air agreement which prevents American airlines taking their passengers on to Europe from Dublin, was given last night by Aid. Steve Coughlan T.D. their passengers on the Europe from Dublin, was given last night by Aid. Steve Coughlan T.D.
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Ohio Company Discover Huge Gas Find At Cork A staggering find of natural gas has been made off the Cork coast by the Marathon Petroleum Company which has reported to the Government that there are huge deposits of gas about 29 miles south-east of the Old Head of Kinsale. An announcement about the find, which a government source described as “staggering,”
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Kerry Burial Of Veteran Republican The burial took place in Brosna, Co. Kerry, at the weekend of Joe O’Connor, a well-known figure in Irish Republican and socialist circles in London. He was in his late fifties. Mr. O’Connor was one of the central figures in a famous trial in Dublin in 1941. Together with George Plant, he was charged with the killing of Michael Devereux in what was alleged to be an IRA execution. ———————–1973-10-27 Irish People
Mr. O’Connor lived in Ealing, West London, and died suddenly last week. He is survived by a sister who is a nun in Roehampton
INTERNMENT In the early hours of August 9th, 1971, more than 300 men were dragged from their beds by British Crown forces and marched off without trial, to concentration camps. Many were dressed only in pyjamas; some were barefoot; none were informed of their destination. Anxious wives and mothers asking when they could see their menfolk again, were given unprintable answers by the British soldiers. The ever smiling, then Prime Minister, Brian Faulkner, formally announced internment. Rioting followed. My midnight, 12 lay dead. On Wednesday the death toll stood at 17; by Saturday 22 had died. The numbers interned soon rose to over 600. For the sixth time since the establishment of Stormont, the Special Powers Act had been invoked to intern Republicans.
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1982-09-04 Irish People- page13
BY PAUL ROONEY
“LISTOWEL is a great place for a fleadh,” announced one Scottish visitor last weekend on this his first visit to Ireland. It is an experience that will remain in his memory for a long, long time — and who could blame that Scotsman?;
This year’s All-Ireland Fleadh Cheoil attracted over 2,000 musicians to the north Kerry town and another 20,000 visitors and they certainly got value for money. And they came from the four corners of Ireland, from Britain, Europe, Australia and the United States — all united in a harmonious quest
for music.
The fleadh has now been an annual event for 30 years since Comhaltas Ceoltoiri Eireann was founded in 1951. One of its major aims was to create a closer bond among all lovers of Irish music and some of its particular objectives to restore the playing of harp and uileann pipes. Its success has been formidable, as any fleadh visitor will testify.
There are two platforms for the musicians, who ranged from eight to eighty years old — one formal, the other anything but.
The formal competitions are divided into 35 different categories and four age groups. Their aim is to find the All-Ireland champion in each of these categories be it the fiddle, concert flute, harp, bodhran, banjo or melodian.
The event is also a barometer of Listowel — non-stop music of musical standards. And those standards were amazingly high last weekend, especially among the younger performers whose agility on their instruments provided an unending source of wonderment for the gathered multitudes.
But it was away from the strict area of competition that most of the musicians came into their own.
Hundreds of impromptu sessions were to be found in the streets, pubs and hotels of Listowel. Saturday’s weather was very kind to the musicians apart from the odd shower of rain, which quite considerately held off its force until after one o’clock in the morning, when publicans finally ushered people in various states of euphoria out into the darkness.
But even the rain could not stop the crack. Musicians, soaked inside and out, kept the entertainment going with enthusiasts
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TAX USA: On average, each “consumer unit” paid more than $16,000 in taxes last year. This was more than average spending on food, clothing, education, and health care combined.
Spending, average of $8,289.28 on food, $5,451.61 on health care, $1,226.14 on education, and $1,754.39 on clothes.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott announced recently his state has bussed more than 10,000 migrants to Washington, New York City, and Chicago since April.
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WARMING: White wispy trails across the blue sky on a sunny day are one of the few attractive features of air travel. But they have a darker side, especially at night. For the condensation trails produced by the exhaust from aircraft engines are creating an often-invisible thermal blanket of cloud across the planet. Though lasting for only a short time, these “contrails” have a daily impact on atmospheric temperatures that is greater than that from the accumulated carbon emissions from all aircraft since the Wright Brothers first took to the skies more than a century ago.
https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-airplane-contrails-are-helping-make-the-planet-warmer
UK ornamentals were worth £1.4 billion in 2020, a decrease of 1.2%
compared to 2019; the market for cut flowers and ornamental plants was worth £1.3 billion in 2018, according to government statistics. Around 90% of these flowers are imported.
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CANCER: “Cancer doesn’t discriminate between red or blue, it doesn’t care if you’re a Republican or a Democrat,” Biden said in a speech Monday afternoon at the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum in Boston. “Beating cancer is something we can do together and that’s why I’m here today.” Biden likened the effort to Kennedy’s goal of putting a man on the moon in his remarks, which come on the 60th anniversary of Kennedy’s moonshot speech.
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POPE: By Courtney Mares
Vatican, 13 September, 2022 / (ACI Africa).
Pope Francis arrived in Kazakhstan Tuesday urging dialogue and peace in the face of Russia’s “senseless and tragic war” in Ukraine.
In a speech to Kazakh civil authorities and diplomats in the capital city of Nur-Sultan on Sept. 13, the pope said he wanted to “echo the plea of all those who cry out for peace.”
“I have come here as a pilgrim of peace, seeking dialogue and unity. Our world urgently needs peace: it needs to recover harmony,” Pope Francis said from the stage of the Qazaq Concert Hall.
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WHAT’S ON Tinteán Magazine; https://tintean.org.au/category/whats-on/
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ST BRENDAN on Radio Kerry Saturday Supplement on 24Sep
Frank Lewis hears Brendan stories from Eamonn O’Reilly, discusses a great Brendan archive with Claudia Kohler .. hears Brendan’s challenges for today from Benedictine monk Luke Macnamara, wonders what to call Brendan country and is joined by a local person in Fenit, Wether’s Well, Tearmon Erc, Ardfert, Killelton, Brandon Bay, Cloghane and Brandon Creek. 9 (after the news) to 11am Saturday September 24, Saturday Supplement, Radio Kerry. (Live worldwide on www.radiokerry.ie; podcast from following Tuesday on same site .. look under ‘podcasts’, ‘Saturday Supplement’, ’24 September 2022‘)
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NOVENA TO ST. THERESE – THE LITTLE FLOWER – 23rd Sept – 1st Oct. –
“ O Glorious St. Therese I implore your miraculous intersession. So powerful are you in obtaining every need of body and soul that the Holy Mother Church proclaims you a prodigy of miracles. Shower down your roses on all who invoke you and obtain for us from God the graces we seek from his infinite goodness, (here mention your intentions). Henceforth dear Little Flower I will fulfil your plea to be made known here. And I will never cease to lead others to Jesus through you. Amen.
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FAMILY – like branches of a tree – we all grow in different directions – yet our roots remain as one.
LAST WORD: The things you do for yourself are gone when you are gone, but the things you do for others remain as your legacy.
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QUEEN: crowd is queuing up and patiently waiting to file past Queen Elizabeth’s flag-draped coffin. People are being warned that this may involve standing for as much as thirty hours.
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